Chances are, if someone discloses a felony on the job application, there will be no such discussion.
Formerly had to hire and fire lots of people and would ask if there's any reason you couldn't complete a background check or pass a drug test. Favorite responses include "what sorts of felonies count?" And "if you give me 5 days".
I agree though, likely not going forward, especially if you say it's a person to person felony and don't want to explain what that means so we have to assume the worst like a hate crime or something. They didn't want to pay for checks we knew would pop for things corporate prohibited.
The sad part is we didn't deny a good applicant for any felonies other than theft, fraud, or violent crimes because corporate policy made us. Though dishonesty/evasiveness was a big issue. Nobody cared if you smoked weed, used to sell drugs, got caught up in something. If you told us what to expect and it matched up it was all good.... And we didn't even actually drug test, we just asked if there was anything that would prevent them from it.
Presumably, we'd all put a discreet "do not hire" on your file. I don't care if you're a felon, it's just exceedingly stupid to talk politics in a job interview.
Yep, agree......Leave your politics, religion and other heavy topics at home.
Hell, I was raised as a teenager in local politics. I LOATHE, to the very fiber of my being, politics. The very LAST place I would talk about politics, sex, or religion, is a job interview. Yes. Exceptions obviously exist.
On the other hand, if "forewarned is forearmed" , then you're saving both yourself and any potential victims, the hassle of having to deal with a nasty individual.
Either way, in a job interview it is exceedingly stupid, as you said.
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Yeah that’s not how real life works. If I was interviewing someone and they pulled that logic on me, they blew the interview. It comes across as entitlement. Like “if a felon can be president then then why don’t I qualify for this job?” Well you’re certainly not qualified to be president, and you’re definitely not capable of catching the same type of charges as the president. Your felonies, sir, are assault, battery and possession of an illicit substance… and this is a Wendy’s.
Well you’re certainly not qualified to be president
See, that's where you're wrong. If OP is a natural born citizen that's 35 or older, they're qualified. Those are the qualifications.
you’re definitely not capable of catching the same type of charges as the president
Says who? Falsifying business records, the crime he was actually convicted of, isn't exactly a national security charge.
You don't bring up politics in a job interview. It's off-putting and signals to an interviewer that you aren't using your best judgement. That's the correct answer. You're just a tool.
As somebody who has worked for the federal government, convictions for falsifying records, including financial ones, would be points against most worthwhile federal jobs, and disqualify you from ever holding a security clearance. You'd be amazed at the sheer volume of government paperwork.
I agree, it's a bit crass to assume a working class person could earn that conviction. Con artists and forgers come to mind. But yeah, I I was a hiring manager at petsmart and somebody had a felony they weren't comfortable sharing, I would assume an assault charge or possession with intent, or something along those lines as they are statistically more likely.
The question was whether they would disqualify you from being president. Which they would not. Obviously.
I thought it was funny. You sound more like a tool 👍
There’s only one person in the U.S. who would get charged with a felony for doing what Trump did and that man is named Donald Trump. The same can’t be said about you.
Basically they pretend you have a chance of getting the job
There’s no way someone actually says that during an interview 😂
Don't underestimate redditors
I used to work in HR. My reaction would be something along the lines of: "yeah, I definitely agree with you. Unfortunately, the higher ups make that decision, not me."
Don't do this. It won't work. Seriously, it won't work. Be happy you get the interview in the first place and don't fuck it up with such things. These are things you can write on reddit or somewhere else, but you can't do this in a HR interview for a job.
Lol right... soooo many people bring this up..
Like stfu it isn't going to change anything about who and whose life
I'd mark their application, "Preferred Applicant." Preferred to have not waste my time on. Not because of Trump, but you injected politics into a job interview. Unless you are auditioning for a comedy routine don't make jokes.
The most important thing to get across in an interview is that, (1) You can work and play well with others, (2) You are teachable.
I have hired people with the wide range of political positions. I don't care, we can debate policy from many perspectives, when it comes to work, it needs to stay out of the way of accomplishing the goal of have great outcomes.
I ended up only being convicted of a misdemeanor and it’s still completely fucked me over
What kind of misdemeanor?
DUI
Got a simple battery here and it sucks
Do yourself a favor and keep your mouth shut. Don’t say that unless you don’t want the job
They will site corporate guidelines, which they have no control over, claim it is out of their hands, and interview will be over.
I think you need to read the room. Most likely not a great time for that 😆
If I was hiring people I'd hold that against you way more than the felony.
So, how come?
Because it has nothing to do with the situation at hand and makes you sound like a person who will irritate everyone.
Nothing says a president can't be a felon but there are laws saying a felon can't do certain jobs.
Say you don’t have an education without saying don’t have an education.
“Unfortunately” is how Reddit feels, not the United States voting base feels majority lol
I wouldn’t bring up that argument but a felon becoming president definitely changes the discussion.
If you look into the case, you will see that the it wasn't a legit prosecution.
They would probably cringe like I do every time I read it on reddit.
Once a felon, always a felon.
I would say it's even more cringe and embarrassing than just bringing up the felony. You're basically just saying "I'm going to joke about my crimes and become politically charged during regular discussions"
Why would anyone ever say this!? Don't say this. Please.
I’d say there’s probably a difference between you doing cocaine and assaulting someone vs. paying money to shut up a porn star
We only THINK things like that, SILENTLY, when having ourselves an internal, invisible temper tantrum, or self pity party. We never actually verbalize such nonsense.
You're giving the employers the opening to counter with "well then go be president then". Don't use Trump as an example, we'll never win that argument.
I can't imagine anyone actually saying that and getting the job. It just screams not taking the interview seriously.
We are all tired of involving politics in job interviews. Also, we are tired of hearing about Trump's felony's.
It's a flawed concept to say that for many reasons.
I'm so sick of felons comparing offenses.
Mfs do this with sex offenders too.
Both are bad
Trump shouldn't commit them either
You shouldn't either
So many things wrong with this logic. You should never say this in an interview
As an advocate for the DOC population it’s not an argument as it is often not at the discretion of the company but more of a systemic problem. Example: car dealerships can’t hire anyone who has a felony because they won’t be able to insure them to move the cars around on the lot. Anyone whose business requires them to be licensed, bonded and insured in most states can’t do this with felons as employees. Any hospital or home health that accepts Medicaid or Medicare would not be able to do so if they employ individuals with certain felony convictions.
So understanding it’s not purely discretionary may help to see why this is not a viable alternative
