Thursday, January 30, 2025

Are there any prisons anywhere in the United States, and/or the world, that have phones in every cell that are capable of receiving inbound calls as well as making outbound?

 

Are there any prisons anywhere in the United States, and/or the world, that have phones in every cell that are capable of receiving inbound calls as well as making outbound?

I bet the most Humane prisons in Scandinavia have phones in every single one of their cells. How true is that? Where else are there prisons with phones in every single cell?

 

 

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[–]RedSunCinema 16 points  

As far as I know, there's no prison anywhere in the world that would willingly allow inmates to have cell phones in their cells to accept or receive unlimited phone calls. That's just a recipe for disaster that can't be logistically monitored properly. That being said, there are instances where inmates have illegally smuggled cell phones into prisons and use them to make phone calls and post videos but that is illegal and comes with severe punishment.

[–]PossibleCash6092 4 points  

Yeah and there’s even a prison subreddit that has these inmates posting on there all of the time from their phones

[–]RedSunCinema 2 points  

Yeah, that's nuts. We deal with that from time to time in our facilities but it's not as bad an issue as it is in other states, and thankfully so. Cell phones are a nightmare.

[–]ChefSnowWithTheWrist 2 points  

Maybe I'm dumb but why are cell phones a bad idea? Even if it was just like flip phones or some inmate version of a phone like the clear tvs or something

[–]RedSunCinema 1 point  

Good question. It's logistically almost impossible to monitor and police. At my institution, for example, we have a staff of roughly 200 officers of all ranks. Our IA department has just three people. We have an average of 1600 inmates. There's no way we can monitor all the cell phones at the same time or review the recordings of every phone call if all the inmates are using their phones all day and all night. Then there's the issue of non-verbal information that can be transmitted via cell phones. It's not that hard to jail break a cell phone that has monitoring software. That presents a whole other set of issues for security in the prison.

[–]hototter35 2 points  

it's not supposed to be a comfortable experience

In the US where the prison system is insanely outdated and inhumane, relying on punishment to force reform. It's the equivalent of parents hitting their children instead of teaching them. Rehabilitation and reintegration don't happen when your being punished.

While it isn't comfortable in the sense of (mostly) not being allowed to go outside the prison, first world counties actually try to make it as comfortable as possible within reason.

I dont think phones in every cell are needed when inmates are allowed to walk through their unit freely and use the phone there. Remember it's not America where your human rights and dignity don't mean shit

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[–]RedSunCinema 1 point  

Some prisons in Europe are the exception to the rule.

[–]Solid_Mongoose_3269 0 points  

"In the US where the prison system is insanely outdated and inhumane, relying on punishment to force reform"

Its almost like its a deterrent to NOT be a garbage person, and dont break the law.

[–]hototter35 2 points  

Which is proven to have far worse results than a rehabilitation focus prison system.

[–]Solid_Mongoose_3269 -2 points  

Those that cant follow the laws dont deserve the protection from them.

[–]RedSunCinema 3 points  

Treating prisoners like animals is precisely why the U.S. has such an incredibly high recidivism rate of over 70% when compared to Europe who has a recidivism rate of 5% in the progressive prisons that have been built there. When you actually reform and educate prisoners so they don't wind up right back where they started when they were arrested, society benefits immensely from their rehabilitation.

[–]hototter35 2 points  

In addition to what the other person said:
Americans like to yell first amendment. Germans have as the most important part of their constitution this: "he human dignity is untouchable"
Because we know what happens when you take people's dignity.

Also not everyone who is in an American prison has broken serious laws. Some are in there because they are poor and got a parking ticket. There's actually plenty of reasons why one would be in prison, wrongful convictions exist as well.
I'm astonished by your inability to not realise the nuance here yourself. It's like you think you only go to prison if you kill someone or smth like that.

[–]Solid_Mongoose_3269 1 point  

Nobody is in jail over a parking ticket, without other warrants beyond that the ticket flagged.

[–]hototter35 1 point  

You disappoint me yet again. Instead of taking a second to think about the meaning of what I said, you just dispute one of my examples.

But okay here I spent 2 seconds on Google for you:

A Debtor’s Prison: Court fees and minor fines are leading to debilitating cycles of incarceration in the US
From:
https://finesandfeesjusticecenter.org/articles/debtors-prison-court-fees/
(Really interesting lawsuit over it explained in this article, I do hope you read it.)

Maybe if you're too lazy to educate yourself and think of an intelligent response you could just not reply? Do you usually rely on others to explain things to you?

[–]valord 1 point  

What? Where did you get this false info from? The prison is usually afraid of lawsuits, and most smart prisoner will try to find a way yo suit the prison. That's why they have just about everything from the library, to tech lab, etc. That's why prisons have their own health system, from dental, pharmacy, MD. It's like a hospital there.

[–]hototter35 1 point  

American prisons would be considered inhumane and illegal under German law. And so would American psych wards.

You can sue for any reason btw, if every prisoner would feel like suing (which isn't really a free pastime activity) they could! And judging the speed of the American legal system you'd have an active lawsuit for a few years that will then get thrown out.

Idk why you think this is false information, do you even know anything about prison systems?

[–]RedSunCinema 2 points  

You're spot on there.

This is why there are only a few phones on the walls of each wing in a cell house, usually three to five. So, for example, in the prison I work at, there are a total of 21 wings with phones on the walls in the dayrooms, with five phones each, for a total of 100 operational phones at any one time (occasional tech issues make lead to some not working at any one time).

Our facility holds a max of 2000 inmates. It's far easier to monitor 100 phone calls via software than 2000 phone calls. It's also impossible to monitor 2000 calls with the limited staff most prison have on hand.

[–]Lazy-Government-7177 2 points  

Well your post is exactly right... there's 4 phones per pod of 60 people. 8 phones in the yard of 500 people. Some phones get put off the hook for hours (gangs phone) and there's 10s of officers listening to calls, listening to calls that were recorded earlier in the day, special words.

[–]UndergroundNotetakin 1 point  

There are prisons in Germany that don’t even have locks, called “open prisons”. People can come and go because their system is focused on rehabilitation, not retribution. Don’t know for sure but I’m gonna guess they have phones.

[–]RedSunCinema 1 point  

You're correct about how the prisons in Germany are but inmates absolutely do not have access to their own phones as it's a major security issue they won't allow in their institutions.

[–]UndergroundNotetakin 1 point  

Not sure why that would be a larger security risk than someone literally walking out of the facility. Can you explain? But also, every single cell has its own phone according to several news sites: “…they have telephones in their rooms, and they can call anyone — even the media.” https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/06/17/germany-s-kinder-gentler-safer-prisons

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[–]sleepyooh90 3 points  

We don't have jail and prison, we have prison. If you are arrested for something you probably will be in the arrest locked in 23 hours a day, sometimes with 100% restriction with no contact outside except your lawyer, for months sometimes before trial. That's like big narco crimes or murders.We are shamed as a country for this since it's inhumane. But mostly it's a night or few days for lower charges, before you are released and then you can wait months to a couple of years before trial.

40 days as I did in prison is often served with house arrest or Community service, but I had a prior house arrest for cannabis possession so I was not eligible since it was within a 3 year period.

I'm not sure the difference between jail and prison, jail is before trial mostly right? We only have prison for convicts, and the police arrest where they hold people committed arson, murder and 10kg coke charges so they can't affect the investigation and sometimes be fully isolated from everything while waiting trial.

And yeah when you go to prison you get one call to a close relative. Not in the arrest though.

[–]rightwist 2 points  

What country are you talking about?

[–]okcboomer87 2 points  

For one thing. Prison is a punishment. And being able to easily communicate back to your gang would not be beneficial to anybody. Not sure where you are going with this but it seems like a bad idea.

[–]PetersMapProject 1 point  

Some prisons in the UK have phones in the cell - but they can only be used to contact pre-approved phone numbers, and the calls can be monitored 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/in-cell-phones-for-more-prisons-in-drive-to-cut-crime

[–]oppernaR 1 point  

Be careful with your reasoning, you're on an entire journey before you even get to asking an irrelevant question.

I bet

So you're making an assumption and believe strongly in it, but have nothing to base it on.

How true is that?

Not at all.

Where else

No. Not "where else" because there are none to begin with, as others have explained.

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